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browncoat2x2) wrote2006-05-26 10:45 pm
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X-Men III.... my rant
This post contains SPOILERS for X-Men III - The Last Stand. If you do not wish to know about it, do not proceed!
***SPOILERS***
*Sigh*
I was disappointed. After waiting so long, and being so excited about the previews, I suppose it was almost inevitable that I would be. But I have very valid reasons.
Characterization. Way off in so many places. Magneto would have NEVER NEVER NEVER said "What have I done?" NEVER!!!!! He would have yelled at Jean to destroy them all! They just took away his powers! Made him human!!! He'd rather see everything destroyed. And besides that, YOU CAN'T MAKE A CHARACTER SAY THAT!! OMG CHEESY!!
And, I don't think Magneto would be so quick to dump Mirage after she'd been 'cured'... hell, there's no proof that the cure is permanent, and he ows her SO MUCH... there is SOME humane qualities to the man... (regardless of what I said abover *g*)
Wolverine would NOT break down and cry at Xavier's death... Storm would have, and Logan would have comforted her perhaps, but not the other way around. They weren't *that* close.
I didn't like the little 'inside joke' of having the X-Men fighting a Sentinal in the danger room... they don't even exist yet in this universe, how can they (and why would they) train against one?
Magneto moving the Golden Gate Bridge (or whichever bridge that is) was visually impressive enough, but so totally un-necessary! Oh, and he just happened to know that Mirage would betray him, and exactly when, so that Multiple guy could be there as a decoy?? Huwhat?
In the last stand at the end, why didn't we get to see Colossus fight??? He was there, but ... oh, dear, we ran out of money, so... no big metal guy (this is true, btw, not just my snarkiness)
AND.... why did Wolverine have to kill Jean? THEY HAVE A KID WHO NULLIFIES MUTANT POWERS BY HIS PROXIMITY! I mean, it was all there, totally set up, just waiting to happen... Granted it was a nice angsty moment, and you all know how I loves me some angst, (they were always better together then her and Scott!!) but...c'mon!
The whole look and feel of the movie was different, no doubt because the whole crew and director from the first two movies left to do Superman Returns, and the guy who was doing Superman Returns, left it to do X-Men... hrmmmm... weird....
They messed with some of the characters, combining two into one, giving them powers they didn't have, tried to cram as many mutants into the movie as possible, whether they were needed or not and... arrrgggg...
I really, REALLY wanted to like this movie. I was so excited. And now just all the more disappointed.
*sigh*
My advice, go buy Joss's Amazing X-Men (on which elements of the movie are based) It's infintely better and well worth the money.
***SPOILERS***
*Sigh*
I was disappointed. After waiting so long, and being so excited about the previews, I suppose it was almost inevitable that I would be. But I have very valid reasons.
Characterization. Way off in so many places. Magneto would have NEVER NEVER NEVER said "What have I done?" NEVER!!!!! He would have yelled at Jean to destroy them all! They just took away his powers! Made him human!!! He'd rather see everything destroyed. And besides that, YOU CAN'T MAKE A CHARACTER SAY THAT!! OMG CHEESY!!
And, I don't think Magneto would be so quick to dump Mirage after she'd been 'cured'... hell, there's no proof that the cure is permanent, and he ows her SO MUCH... there is SOME humane qualities to the man... (regardless of what I said abover *g*)
Wolverine would NOT break down and cry at Xavier's death... Storm would have, and Logan would have comforted her perhaps, but not the other way around. They weren't *that* close.
I didn't like the little 'inside joke' of having the X-Men fighting a Sentinal in the danger room... they don't even exist yet in this universe, how can they (and why would they) train against one?
Magneto moving the Golden Gate Bridge (or whichever bridge that is) was visually impressive enough, but so totally un-necessary! Oh, and he just happened to know that Mirage would betray him, and exactly when, so that Multiple guy could be there as a decoy?? Huwhat?
In the last stand at the end, why didn't we get to see Colossus fight??? He was there, but ... oh, dear, we ran out of money, so... no big metal guy (this is true, btw, not just my snarkiness)
AND.... why did Wolverine have to kill Jean? THEY HAVE A KID WHO NULLIFIES MUTANT POWERS BY HIS PROXIMITY! I mean, it was all there, totally set up, just waiting to happen... Granted it was a nice angsty moment, and you all know how I loves me some angst, (they were always better together then her and Scott!!) but...c'mon!
The whole look and feel of the movie was different, no doubt because the whole crew and director from the first two movies left to do Superman Returns, and the guy who was doing Superman Returns, left it to do X-Men... hrmmmm... weird....
They messed with some of the characters, combining two into one, giving them powers they didn't have, tried to cram as many mutants into the movie as possible, whether they were needed or not and... arrrgggg...
I really, REALLY wanted to like this movie. I was so excited. And now just all the more disappointed.
*sigh*
My advice, go buy Joss's Amazing X-Men (on which elements of the movie are based) It's infintely better and well worth the money.
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My boyfriend was also disappointed by the lack of Colossus. But then, he also wanted Gambit. :-)
And I think having the kid stop Jean would have felt like a deus ex machina. Picture it: Wolverine, stumbling toward Jean, trying to get her to stop any way he can. It'd kill him to kill her, though, and he gives her an agonized look ... And then the claws retract, the destruction stops, and Leech looks at her in that Hayley Joel Osment kind of way (NB: I love the kid; he was amazing in Thank You For Smoking) and it's a Moment. Jean collapses, though, still dies, and Wolverine is just angry. I like the way they did it in the movie; it makes for a stronger development for Wolverine.
See, I'm hearing bad things about Superman Returns (not that I care much, never having seen the originals and always being a Batman girl anyway), which begs the question: would you rather have one amazing movie and one crappy one, or two decent-ish ones?
And to end this on a friendly note, I had my first Internet fanfic writer moment during the Iceman/Pyro fight, when I thought "OMG slash!" And then I kicked myself a little, and decided that balanced out when he was comforting both Rogue and Kitty at the funeral and I thought "It's hard out here for a pimp." (Speaking of which, WTF at Rogue?)
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Hmmmmm maybe... even allowing for that, I still think it's one of the cheesiest lines ever, one that should be completely stricken from language *G*
My boyfriend was also disappointed by the lack of Colossus. But then, he also wanted Gambit. :-)
Gambit would've been sweet. I love Gambit. Apparently they asked what's his name, who plays Sawyer on LOST to do him, but he thought the characters were too similar and didn't want to get typecast (Huwhat?) SO, they scrapped the character entirely for the movie.
And I think having the kid stop Jean would have felt like a deus ex machina.[...] I like the way they did it in the movie; it makes for a stronger development for Wolverine.
Oh, don't get me wrong... I didn't WANT them to use the kid, it's just that every element was there for that to be the way it went down... 'sides which, Jean dies a whole ton of times, so it's okay... just surprised me more than anything.
See, I'm hearing bad things about Superman Returns (not that I care much, never having seen the originals and always being a Batman girl anyway), which begs the question: would you rather have one amazing movie and one crappy one, or two decent-ish ones?
I've never been much of a Superman Super-fan (and, OMG is there a story behind that nickname I had) he's okay, but I too was always a Batman girl... Squee! I have several hundred comics in my basement...heheh... doing nothing...
As to the question, I'd definately rather have one amazing movie, and one bad one I could skip, or forget about, over two mediocre films....
And to end this on a friendly note, I had my first Internet fanfic writer moment during the Iceman/Pyro fight, when I thought "OMG slash!" And then I kicked myself a little, and decided that balanced out when he was comforting both Rogue and Kitty at the funeral and I thought "It's hard out here for a pimp." (Speaking of which, WTF at Rogue?)
Bwahaaahahahaa! That's so funny! I liked the little fire vs ice scene... as stereo typical as those kind of battles are, it's still neat to see... And, Oh yeah, WTF did we need Kitty Pride in this movie for? Just to run through walls... that actress sucked, IMHO *G* That scene when they were all on the jet, looking pensive and contemplative, and she just looked DUMB.... 'duh, look at the pretty clouds!' sheesh...
As to Rogue, I didn't mind it so much, as she really does have issues about never being able to touch anyone, and having made her a teen, the angst would certainly be there, and kids do stupid, reckless things without thinking of the consequences, so I didn't mind that too much (even though it was Beast in the comic who was going through the real dilemma of whether or not to take the cure)
Speaking of Beast, I really should say that he was AMAZING.... I love the fact that Kelsey Grammer played him, as he voiced him in the cartoon... and his FIGHTING was perfect... Best thing in the whole movie! OH, and his X-men coat... just like from the cartoon... awesome! heee!
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See, the story I heard was that he was just crazy busy with Lost and all. But yours makes sense also.
... 'sides which, Jean dies a whole ton of times, so it's okay... just surprised me more than anything.
I never read the comic books, I just watched the TV show off and on. Jean always annoyed me, because it just seemed like she was always like "I could help! ... But my POWERS. They're OUT OF CONTROL. I could HURT someone ... so I'll just sit by helplessly and angst for Wolverine without Scott getting jealous." Stupid Scott.
I've never been much of a Superman Super-fan (and, OMG is there a story behind that nickname I had)
Story! Story! :-)
And, Oh yeah, WTF did we need Kitty Pride in this movie for?
Personally, I think she was there so we could have the line "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!" (Speaking of awesome portrayals.) She just bugged me because I wanted to see a catfight between her and Rogue, which would have consisted of Rogue wiping the floor with him.
Rogue getting the cure made sense, but it really still felt to me like she just did it because Iceman was being an idiot (btw, is he stupid or what?). It felt like she was angsting rather than getting fed up with life in general.
And yeah, Beast pretty much kicked ass all over the place. 'Cause he's awesome like that. Although being a politics dork, the scene with him getting named UN ambassador made me want to see that scene.
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hahahaha... yeah, pretty much... she had a roll to play :o) Personally, I always liked Wolverine better than Cyclops, because, well, he's Canadian for one, and just all around cooler *G* So... I didn't mind too much that Scott was so stupid *G*
I've never been much of a Superman Super-fan (and, OMG is there a story behind that nickname I had)
Story! Story! :-)
Ahhh geee... Okay. So, the story is, I was on my way home from college one day, and decided to stop in at my comic shop. It just HAPPENED to be the day that the Death of Superman comic was released, so I figured, meh, why not, might be worth something someday... And I just HAPPENED to get there at the right time to be the first in line. So I got my Collector's edition in the sealed plastic bag, and my newstand edition, ... and the Gorram paper guy was there and took my picture for the paper... So, I'm like, okay, no biggie, some little community column in the local paper....
FRONT PAGE FULL COLOUR PHOTO
Caption: Superman Superfan first in line to get her copy of The Death of Superman.
AAACK!!
Annnnnnd, it wouldnt have been so bad except that EVERYONE friggen recognized me EVERYWHERE I went... seriously... It haunted me, for like, a YEAR.... and I wasn't even a Superman fan! I just bought them for the MONEY!!! AAAAAHH!HH!
So, yeah, that's the superman superfan story.... my mother still has multiple copies of the article *facepalms* Celebrity might be great if it's for something you want to be known for... but it sucks when it's for being a superman superfan *wry grin*
As to the rest of your post, yeah, generally I thought a lot of the characterization was weak, and so people were dumb for plot convenience's sake... oh well
And, yes, Beast kicked ass... you political dork you! ;o>